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Quote KaruthuKoothan Replybullet Topic: Palm Wine – Ban in TN is not justifiable
    Posted: 21/August/2010 at 11:28pm
In any country it encourages the basis occupation and it outputs.

I visited Paris and found wine is part of their everydays life.!! i am totaly surprised..
They made drinking wine during family function as mark of their pride and way of life. I was wondering why any alcholic drinking is considered as pride!!

Do you imagine in france is one of the world's largest winemaking industry. Almost 2/3rd of agricultural lands are wineyards.. In order to encourge the industry and create a market for those product.. they generated a kind of awareness and marketing for those products.. And defined wine as part of everybody's life..

When Palm wine is agricultural product of tamilnadu.. the govt responsibilty is to create a market for those products rather than banning it.. I really dont understand the logic behind it as well.. if Govt thinks palm wine is spoiling citizen.. and they feel citizens are protected from drinking it.. Thanks god!!TN Govt is selling and earning crores of rupees out of liquor sale thr' TASMAC..

Let TamilNadu Govt thinks and make farmer;s to produce goods and find right market to sell it.. Otherwise farmer;s society will be exticnt..in near future..
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Quote a_grand_jovian Replybullet Posted: 19/January/2009 at 10:53pm
you also left out the following:

பிட்டு (புட்டு)
கூழ்
அடை
தேனும் தினை மாவும்

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Quote a_grand_jovian Replybullet Posted: 19/January/2009 at 10:50pm
i like your post. but only some questions.
is kerala a hot place? i saw kallu katais at many places.


I believe that பதனீர் can be used for many purposes. heard that bengalis use for making sweets. dont know how far its sure. any one knew about சந்தேஷ் (ஒரு வகையான பெங்காலி இனிப்பு).




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Quote samraj Replybullet Posted: 17/January/2009 at 11:10pm
Banning a fermented beverages and allowing distilled beverages is the height of stupidity which is happening in TN...Read below to understand more in detail

On 21- Jan-2009, The Palm-Wine tapping is planned by a group of people to show off their agitation against Palm-Wine tapping which is banned by TN Govt. I too support them which seem to be fair claim for removal of the ban. They are also fighting against the ban for a long time like how our TN Govt. fighting with Central Govt. to take steps to stop the war in Sri-lanka!!!

What is our food habit?
Our place is naturally bound by hot-hotter-hottest climate and we have/had some food habits to overcome the hot climate and body heat. Nowadays, it may not be relevant for the metro working culture due to A/C and other facilities available but still large amount of people are working in the hot sunlight.

Drinks:-
Nannari Sarpath (fresh lime juice with Nannari)
Butter milk
Tamarind mixed with Karuppukatti (palm sugar), also called as Panakaram in Rural
Old rice mixed with water, also called as Neeragaram in Rural

Foods:-
Idli
Dosai
Appam
Old rice mixed with butter milk
Lemon rice
Tamarind rice
Curd rice

Almost every food and drinks we use to have is sour taste in nature, why? There comes the logic, food habits are determined by the environment and nature...We use to take pro-biotic fermented foods & drinks which has lot of benefits for our body (you can surf on the net to find-out and market this healthy food)
wildfermentation

Now let’s look at the drinks (alcoholic beverages) classifications
Alcoholic Beverages Classification from Wiki

People from many countries believe that drinking Beer and Wine is good for health since it comes under fermented beverages. So nothing wrong me saying drinking Palm-Wine (Palm wine – Natural sap from palm trees which has less alcoholic content when compared with Beer as well as Wine) is also good for health (My dad also told me the same by his own experience)

I used the name Palm-Wine to represent "Kallu" because the word has been registered as bad in our memory from our child-hood!!!

Palm Wine Definition from Wiki

In parts of India, the unfermented sap is called "Neera" ("Padaneer" in Tamil Nadu) and is refrigerated, stored and distributed by semi-government agencies. A little lime is added to the sap to prevent it from fermenting. Neera is said to contain a lot of nutrients including potash.

Tamil Sangam literature contains many references to Toddy (Kallu) and Tirukkuṛaḷ contains a chapter on "Abhorrence of Toddy".

In India, palm wine or toddy is served as either neera (a sweet, non-alcoholic beverage derived from fresh sap) or kallu (a sour beverage made from fermented sap, but not as strong as wine).[4] Kallu is usually drunk soon after fermentation by the end of day, as it becomes more sour and acidic day by day and become vinegar

In Karnataka, India, palm wine is usually available at toddy shops (known as "Kallu Angadi" in Kannada or "Liquor Shop" in English). In Tamil Nadu, this beverage is currently banned, though the legality fluctuates with politics. In the absence of legal toddy, moonshine distillers of arrack often sell methanol-contaminated alcohol, which can have lethal consequences. To discourage this practice, authorities have pushed for inexpensive "Indian Made Foreign Liquor" (IMFL), much to the dismay of toddy tappers.

In the state of Andhra Pradesh (India), toddy is a popular drink in rural parts. The kallu is collected, distributed and sold by the people of a particular caste called Goud or Gownla. It is a big business in the cities of those districts. In villages, people drink it every day after work. In some villages in Karimnagar district, it is delivered daily to the door. The entire family (including children and women) sit in a circle in their backyard and enjoy kallu with dinner. Kallu is also offered to deities such as Theertham in many religious functions.

Research on ancient humans shows that they consumed toddy collected on rock pots under coconut trees which got broken.

Remember that Wine has 11~20% alcohol, Beer has 5~10% alcohol where as Palm wine has < 4% alcohol

Palm Wine from Nigeria
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Research by Nifor a Nigerian Organization
Products from Nifor a Nigerian Organization

Some Info from the net:-

Palm wine (Mutango) is a popular drink in Cameroon, especially in rural areas. It's the sap from palm trees, usually going straight from the tree to your glass. No refining or processing is necessary, although sometimes classier joints will strain out the bugs that can get into it from the trees. The sap begins to ferment the instant it comes out of the tree and within as little as two hours can be up to 4% alcohol. It gets progressively stronger the longer it ferments and needs to be consumed soon after taking it out of the tree. After 48 hours it pretty much turns to vinegar, although refrigeration can extend its life.
Drink it relatively soon after it comes out of the tree and it is still pretty mild and sweet tasting. It has a unique flavor that varies depending on the type of palm tree, region, soil, etc. I've had two kinds in Cameroon so far: one in Ekekom that tasted a little like peanuts and the one in Batoké, which vaguely reminded me of the Martinelli's faux champagne apple cider that people who don't want alcohol drink on New Year's Eve. The peanutty stuff was OK, but the mutango we had in Batoké was delicious. Cheap too - a 1.5 liter bottle ran 150 Francs CFA (about $0.30 US)
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